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Hillary Clinton 2008

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Hillary Clinton 2008

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I'm aware that I might get nailed for this post, but I'm taking a chance anyway, because I honestly want to know. This community was once a safe-haven for me, a place where I could voice my opinion without worrying about having to defend everything I wrote, down to the last period. I miss that.



But onto the actual point of this post. It's disheartening to see so many Hillary supporters here jumping on the McCain wagon so quickly. If you're someone who casts their votes in Presidential elections based on personality, I see his appeal over someone who the primary season has taught us to despise. But if you are policy voter, as many of you seem to be, the obvious choice is not McCain, but Obama.

Personally, I dislike Obama. I dislike his cockiness, his elitism, his need to be a long-lost Kennedy. But his policies are the most similar to Hillary's, and while I still feel hers are superior, she's sadly no longer a viable option.

Since Bush Jr. entered office, I've been holding my breath hoping that Breyer, Stevens, and Souter don't retire (or die, but I'd prefer not to be morbid) from the Supreme Court until a Democrat reaches office. I'm less worried about Ginsberg, because she has, God bless her, gone on record saying she's not leaving until the Chief Executive is a Democrat. Stevens is 88 though, and the swing vote, Kennedy, is 71. Obama's stance on abortion isn't so vague that we have no idea how he would handle choosing replacements for the Court. However, McCain's position is crystal clear: given the chance, he will overturn R v. W. As a feminist, but more so as someone who loves the freedoms she's been given, it bothers me that so many of you are perfectly willing to allow this mixture of church and state. The same goes for same-sex marriage. No, Obama's policies aren't perfect, but they're a lot easier to swallow than McCain's.

I'm not asking you to hop on the unity wagon and be happy about it. I'm not even sold on the idea of her becoming his VP. I just love my country, and the last thing it needs right now is another Republican.

For the record, no, I am not a straight-ticket Dem.

  • The problem isn't that it's an unkind word, it's an unfounded claim (re: the hideous SCOTUS threat).

    Again, SCOTUS already has the votes to flip Roe if they were given the opportunity. They just haven't been given an opportunity.

    And just as Obama has bullshit on his website re: his platform to pander and appease his lefty base, so does McCain (re: bullshit on his website/platform to pander and appease his righty base).

    “I’d love to see a point where Roe vs. Wade is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade, which would then force women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.” -- Source: Ron Fournier, Associated Press Aug 24, 1999

    Of course, McCain realizes that the evangelicals can't stand him because of that, so he came up with this excuse:

    Q: In 1999, you said, "In the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade, which would then force X number of women in American to undergo illegal and dangerous operations."

    A: That was in the context of conversation about having to change the culture of America as regards to this issue. I have stated time after time after time that Roe v. Wade was a bad decision, that I support the rights of the unborn.

    Q: If Roe v. Wade was overturned during a McCain presidency, and individual states chose to ban abortion, would you be concerned that, as you said, X number of women in America would undergo illegal and dangerous operations?

    A: No, I would hope that X women in America would bring those children into life in this world, and that I could do whatever I could to assist them. Again, that conversation from 1999, so often quoted, was in the context of my concerns about changing the culture in America to understand the importance of the rights of the unborn.

    Source: Meet the Press: 2007 "Meet the Candidates" series May 13, 2007


    In August 1999, McCain told the San Francisco Chronicle that he would "not support repeal of Roe vs Wade" because it would force women to undergo illegal operations. He has subsequently said that he was speaking about the need to change the "culture of America", and supports the repeal of Roe vs Wade. -- Source: GovWatch on 2008 campaign: "Top Ten Flip-Flops" Feb 5, 2008

    I think he really doesn't support controlling peoples' lives to a degree that would put them in danger and that he really doesn't support it, but his party got pissed off at him for speaking his mind, so he flipped.

    Just like the PUMAs laughing at the lefties who're getting pissed off about Obama's support of FISA. You can really tell what a person's real opinion is if it pisses someone off. How many flips can we expect from Obama to appease the party? How many have happened so far (particularly telling with what he did to Wright)?
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