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Hillary Clinton 2008

Holy crap. If this is true, the media would have a field day with it.

Hillary Clinton 2008

Hillary Clinton

Holy crap. If this is true, the media would have a field day with it.

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Basics: A young voter sent Donna Brazile an email through Brazile's website. She got a response.

Young voter's email:

From: natalie bryan [mailto:xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:17 AM
To: donna@brazileassociates.com
Subject: This Race

Hi Donna!!!!

I am emailing you on behalf of many people. I am, as you may know, a Hillary Clinton Supporter. You have probably gotten a lot of emails from her supporters, and I understand from the blogs I often frequent that you have responded to many of them.

I want you to know that I read bits and pieces of your autobiography, Cooking With Grease, and thought it was wonderful and well written. I came to understand from your book and from a lot of what I have witnessed in this election cycle that to simply put groups of people in Demographics and Exit polls is a misunderstanding of both America and the Democratic Party.

What I have learned is that people often vote based on their experiences. You, as an Undeclared Obama supporter, probably identify strongly with his candidacy because of the struggles you went through during a time when race relations in this country were in turmoil. I voted for Hillary Clinton, not only because I relate to her strongly as both a person and a woman who is very spiritual and devoted to her family and to helping others, but also because she is the greatest candidate to lead this country out of the mess we're in, and because her policy proposals have been phenominal and close to my heart, because it proves to me that she is not simply talking and promising change, she is telling me how she is going to make it happen. It proves to me that she actually cares.

As a young person, I have a big future ahead of me, and I also have dreams and ambitions, and strong opinions and many other things. CNN tells me every day that I should be supporting Barack Obama, because his freshness and newness should appeal to my fickle nature. But I support Hillary, and like many of her supporters, I feel sad and dissappointed and hurt and many other things by what I see, based on rationality and facts, as the poor and undeserved treatment she and her husband have received by the DNC party elite and the Chicago Style Campaign tactics of Senator Obama's Campaign that I have witnessed with my own eyes and heard a number of stories about.

I understand that many of the emails you have received by Clinton Supporters urging you to do the right and ethical thing by seating Michigan and Florida delegates have been angry and often probably obnoxious. But you cannot possibly understand how frustrated they are. And while you may say that they are "the reason" Hillary is losing, whatever her supporters have done or said pale in comparison to the abuse and mistreatment we have suffered from some supporters of Senator Obama.

You may use Roe V Wade as a trump card for accusing them of being petty in their vows to not support Senator Obama, should he be the nominee, but I assure you that using something like that as a threat will not work, because there are few (actually, no) politicians I have seen that are as devoted to a woman's right to choose than Hillary Clinton, and you know that as well as I.

Ms. Brazille, I urge you not to disclude and disenfranchise millions of voters from every walk of life from this nominating process simply for the sake of one candidate, because doing so would be an awful mistake. I have respect for you as a person, Ms. Brazille, but I would implore you to make the right decision and seat Florida and Michigan . I would also implore you to stop encouraging super delegates to force Senator Clinton out of the race, because the more they do this, the stronger she gets.

Ms. Brazille, I cannot pretend to understand what you have gone through in your life, nor what you are going through now. It would be ignorant of me to try. But many people feel angry when they are stereotyped or put in a box because if what candidate they support. I support Hillary Clinton, and I love all of my friends. Including the great African American friends I have that I adore. and all of the African American women at my mother's church who embrace me and always tell me how "pretty" I look every time I see them. I also love my Latino friends, my Italian friends, my Jewish friends, my Catholic friends.

As I said, I cannot pretend to understand your experiences, but nor can you understand mine. Just because a person's skin may be paler that yours, does not mean their lives are without suffering.
I, for one, cry at night wondering what my republican mother will do if anything happens to her, because she doesn't have Health Insurance. And because of this, my mother may just support Hillary Clinton over John McCain come this fall. She is a Republican who supports Hillary Clinton not because Rush Limbaugh told her to, but because she believes that Hillary Clinton is a Candidate that may actually care about her.

So Ms. Brazille, I would yet again urge you to do everything you can to seat Michigan and Florida properly, and also, I would ask that you stop saying you are "undeclared" on CNN's panels when clearly you know which candidate you support.

Thank you very much for reading this email. Like you, I am very emotionally invested in this Campaign, (as is Stephanie Tubbs Jones, a Congresswoman from the district next to mine who also supports Hillary :D) and wish you all the luck in the world.


A young female voter from Ohio

Brazile's (alleged) response:

From: "Donna Brazile"
To: "'natalie bryan'"
Subject: RE: This Race
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:58:35 -0400

Thanks Natalie,

As of today, I am not going to respond to any more anti American, Anti Democratic emails. Have a nice day.

I am sorry because you are sincere, but the Hillary forces are uncivil, repugnant and vile. When you come up for air and would like to email a person who cares about America and not just a personality, I will respond.

Thanks for your time and your interest.


I want screencaps of this (supposed) email! And I want to send those screencaps to EVERY MAJOR NEWS OUTLET.


  • I read about this on No Quarter. I think it is true, b/c it's not the first time Donna Brazile's nasty e-mail responses have been posted. If you do get your hands on screencaps, don't bother sending them to CNN (where Donna is a political pundit).
  • Brazille's response sounds fake to me, if it was Brazille at all.

    She's too clever to put something like this out there.
    • I don't think it's fake - see my comment above. There have been numerous postings of her nasty responses to e-mails from Hillary supporters.
  • The only forces that are "uncivil, repugnant and vile" are Obama's. It's possible that I'm just living in a shell, but I haven't heard anything about Hillary supporters doing the things that Obamatrons have!

    And a personality? Like the Obamacylons and their claim that Obama is the best person ever, not a politician but some kind of Christ figure? Hahahaha. That's funny. These people crack me up.

    With that said, I'm still skeptical of whether this is real. It's possible, but I've seen so many fake emails and lies spread across the internet since I started using it over ten years ago. I'm not sure what to believe anymore.

    • ITA, though a couple of us have requested that she screencap the email. Screencaps can be faked too, but if the emails' got the full headers in it you can tell if it originated from Brazile's servers.
      • Either way, it would be a good idea to get a screenshot. Otherwise, we'll always wonder about it.
  • I really doubt the response is legit. Really really.

    • Well, stillife says she's seen similar elsewhere, so we'll see. A few people have put in requests to this OP (as she does have her full email up there on her own blog) for screencaps. A screencap with a full header would be hard to fake, particularly from Yahoo (because their full headers from incoming email are pretty definitive).
      • Yeah, I'd find a screen cap convincing. That said, I don't particularly dislike Donna Brazile from what I've seen of her.

        • You don't dislike her? This is the woman who helped forward the "Clinton is racist!" meme. In fact, she started one of them (it was either the comment about MLK/LBJ or one of Bill's comments that she took and ran with). o_o She's also saying that the party doesn't need working class whites or the Latino vote.

    • I can't stand her for the reasons you named above, and b/c I'm convinced she's a major force in the DNC's refusal to seat FL and MI.

      And CNN allows her to present herself as "undeclared". What utter BS!
    • (Anonymous)
      Donna Brazille didn't do anything of the sort. Ignorant simps like you just cannot stand the idea that in a democratic process your preferred candidate is losing, so anyone who has even the slightest criticism of Clinton is the devil. I don't think Clinton is racist, I don't even dislike Clinton, but if you read the comments on many political blogs, you see insane things like suggestions that Obama be lynched or assassinated for no other reason than that by some perceived slight he has "stolen" the election from Clinton. The simple fact of the matter is that more people have voted for Obama in this election, including groups of voters who traditionally do not vote in large numbers, and that is chafing the people who believe that the Democratic party belongs to them.

      If you want to know why democrats seem to lose against all odds in general elections, it's because unlike the republicans, who are more than happy to welcome new voting groups into their ranks, the democratic party acts like a clique. Somehow, the republican party manages to capture groups who should be diametrically opposed (libertarians and the religious right). While the democrats can't even get 2 groups with almost synonymous ideals to be civil.

      Oh, and I'm an independent voter who believed that he would never in a million years vote for a democrat. The democrats have a once in a lifetime opportunity to change from the petty politics of personality and fanatical devotion, and move into an era where voters are inspired to get involved in their government and really drive policy. However; myself and others i've talked to are more turned off from the idea of being democrats by seeing the vitriol and insanity displayed by both Obama and Clinton supporters.

      The witch hunts need to stop. The "scorched earth" politics that dominated our government for the past century need to stop. We need a rational discourse and not vile attacks on anyone who has the gall to question our preferred candidates.
  • From what I've seen of the other responses by Donna Brazile, it could be from her. Though I'd like to see more proof before I really believe it.
  • That is quite possibly the most terrible and rude response I've ever heard! I cannot belive she called that girl Anti-American and Anti-Democratic. That girl never once insulted the Democratic Party. She was just stating her grief!

    Jeez, how have we come to this? We all have such skewed views of civility. If it stays like this, we'll never be able to unite the party again by November.

    Edited at 2008-05-09 04:40 pm (UTC)
  • Jesus Christ. What a fucking asshole. This is why I'm changing my registration.
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